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Its been many years but I often think about my years at MDCAN. Tragic to think it is gone. I live in Penticton BC now. Good to see some old friends on this site.

Email or call sometime if you know me.  Phone: 250-770-8156

 

Dave Tulloch -  76863 - MD-80 Panels/Finals MD11 Rear Spar        dave_tulloch@mdcan.com

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Just by accident I ended up on your MDCAN website.

 

I am a retired Lufthansa purser. During my Lufthansa days I flew on the DC-10 from 1974 until the grand old lady retired from the fleet in 1994.

Before joining LH I flew as a purser for Air Canada from 1970 until I went back to Europe. I worked on ALL short and stretch DC-8's (ticked them all off) and plenty of DC-9's. Also the L-1011-100 and 747-100. As an in-flight service instructor, temporarily based at Dorval, I took the chance to 'work' he Viscount and Vanguard as a supervisor.

I do not know the person who wrote the article when his parent's home was shaking when an aircraft took off. He wrote 'probably a DC-8'. I guess it was a Conway-engined one. maybe me on board.

My favorite hamburger place was Pepi's. They had the best hamburger in Canada. Is the place still there or have they got rid of that as well?

Further question: I know the McDonnell Douglas (you will never hear me say the word Boeing!!) admin building was ripped down. What has become of the manufacturing plants. Are they still there?
I looked at an aerial view of LBP airport yesterday and it still showed the buildings.

You have a great website. Congratulations. It hurts to see everything being torn down.

I visited LGB many times and it is just as sad what has happened there.

Hope to hear from you.

 

Kindest regards,

Arthur

 

Arthur Steffen, Forstweg 4, 63303 Dreieich. Germany

 

By the way, I wrote a book on the DC-10 and the MD-11.

            

 

Maybe you know these editions in the Aeofax series of Midland Publishing

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Hello, Hope all is well.

 I have been a bit out of contact with many of my Douglas/Boeing friends and would like to share a very important event with all of them, since everyone at the establishment supported me when I worked for the company.

 I was an inspector , assembler and wing tank mechanic for 25 years and worked in almost all of the aircraft's we built.

 At present I am the head coach of the Canadian Men's Field Hockey Team and we qualified for the Beijing Olympics last year at the Pan Am Games in RIO, Brazil, where we won GOLD. CBC will be broadcasting our training profile for their show, “Road to Beijing ” on Monday March 24 at 7:30pm. I would very much appreciate it if you can please pass the word along to all my friends and co-workers

 Regards

 Louis Mendonca, National Coach, Canadian Men's Field Hockey
lmendonca@rogers.com

 

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Was at MDCAN from 1978 to 1988, left for the west coast ( BC )

Bob Brisbois, (Production Control) bobbrisbois@mdcan.com

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Thanks for creating this website - it's fun to see some of the old faces and hear the occasional news of people I used to work with.   

Susan Wyatt (Quality Assurance: 1965 - 1990) (Human Resources: 1992)

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Worked at MDCAN three different periods for a total of about 15 years. Left in 1995 and went to Etobicoke (Toronto) Fire Dept as Fire Inspector. Now retired.

    John Wylie - JohnWylie@mdcan.com

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Still in work force with Bombardier on Global Express program

    Andrew Wierus - AndrewWierus@mdcan.com

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Hi my name is John Hinkley, I worked in the shipping department as an asst foreman from 1977 to 1990 then I moved to Macon Georgia where a new plant was opened up.

 I worked in Macon in the shipping department and left McDonnell Douglas around the time Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas started to work as a Sales person selling Semi trucks and moved up to Sales manager then moving to Florida working the same job. Moved to Texas in 2005 with the same company and I am very happy selling Semi trucks in Eastland Texas. Anyone who may remember me please e mail me.

    John Hinkley johnhinkley@mdcan.com

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Hi every 1 my name is Phil Caliendo worked there from 84 -92 in trumpf dept. God sure miss my friends there and money was great.. best job ever had.. work for Sobeys distribution  center in Milton now, but still live in Toronto. been there 11 yrs now.. love 2 hear from old friends.

Great site u guys have here keep up the good work.. thx evey1

    Phil Caliendo

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Worked as Progress Chaser, I know I used the wrong word "Work", get over it.

As we use to say if I told you what I did I have to kill you.(*)

Last department I hung around was Spares now that's a  better word.

My holiday ended in 2000

    William McWilliam

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I worked at MDCAN from 1966 till I took early retirement on March 29th 1996.  My name is Stewart Murray   Badge # 62740 and worked in Production Control.   I also worked at A.V. Roe from 1953 till its demise in 1959 but as a Research Chemist  I owned a home in Malton from 1957 till I move away from there in 2002 to Markdale which is situated a bit South of Owen Sound   I love your website and have managed to locate some of my old workmates through it  

    Thanks  Stewart

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Hi Everyone You all know me as BIG BILL and I was only one in plant.

Worked as Progress Chaser, I know I used the wrong word Work get over it.
As we use to say if I told you what I did I have to kill you.(*) Last department I hung around was Spares now that better word.
My holiday ended 2000

I loved to chat and visit with everyone, I worked as a  Progress Chaser it was a great job.

 I want to thank all departments that helped make my job easier especially getting all those hot jobs done, some days every job was Hot, I could never figured out that one.

If it was not for some of my working buddies, I would of gone insane. Like times we would call our supervisors cell phone when he was in those never ending important meetings and we all make animal noises to get his attention.

We all worked when we had to, and got jobs down right, on time, and we were the best.

But greed from USA, politics and lack of support from our government (the conservatives) the plant was closed.

But to be truthful we all better out of plant most are healthier and doing well.

  So all take care hope to hear or see you soon.

     Bill McWilliam (I combined your 2 messages into one, as I'm getting behind)

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still alive & kicking butt

    Ray Dickinson

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I worked in Shipping and Dispatch from 1986 to 1992. After MDCAN I joined the Federal Service working for various departments as a Network Administrator.
I will send a few MDCAN pics to the Webmaster to add to the collection.
    Derrick Cormier 79177
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Nice site. Laid off in 1992 and moved to Alberta in 1994. I have my own tax consulting business ( www.ptccanada.com ) and love the west.

Thanks,

    Neel Roberts; Receiving Inspection until 1992!

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Toolmaker from 1990 to 1992 and was laid off and returned in 1996 as Toolroom Supervisor with Hans Baumann and Gerry Woegerer until 2001 and was downsized

    Dan Boucher

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Changed my field of Planning to Food Processing Industry in the hopes that it will have more stability than Aerospace Industry. Good job done in compiling this website. Thanks and keep me posted .

Regards.    

Ravi Sharma

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nice to see some old faces. still in Terra Cotta

Tom McAneney  74783

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Working for Boeing in Seattle

    Diana Jakubik

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Hi to All.........
Retired from MDCAN in 2004,relaxing in Oshawa.
Sorry Dan, this time I missed the third Reunion (Visitors).

I miss everyone at MDCAN ..today are the History!!
Glad there is a site for MDCAN employee's.
Saludos Todos.
    Dezsoe Der (Dahser) Electronics Maintenance
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Retired in 2005 relaxing in Richmond Hill

    Robert (Bob) Barcicki

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Retired from MDCAN in 1984.

Chairman of Local 673 C.A.W ( MDCAN unit ) from 1978 to 1984

    Bert Cowgill

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Hi ....its been a long time since MDCAN days. I was laid off in 1992. I now work in the flood and fire restoration business. I miss everyone at MDCAN. Glad there is a site for MDCAN employee's.

    Michael Cowgill

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Retired in 99 and still loving it

    Jim Culbert

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Hi UAW-CAW 1967,

I love this site.

I do have a few pictures that I could send to the site. They're taken by MDCAN ,of friends and myself while working. I also would love to see other pictures of MDCAN and workers.

One of the best times of my life, working at MDCAN, and still Proud that I worked there!

See You Soon

    Ray Kucma

 

Thank You Ray, why don't you send them along to share

 

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hi guys
good to read some e-mails from ex Douglas people. I'm at bombardier now and enjoying it .

 It's amazing how many ex Douglas people are there. I'm still under a lot of stress Malcolm, but I've learned how to deal with it over the years)( yuk-yuk)

Good web site and I hope more people hook up to it.
regards
    Cal Cunning
    You always handled stress so well  PHOTO
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cool site, I might see ya all soon

 

    Kirby Campbell (#1 sealer)

 

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Hi

Since MDCAN closed in 2005 my wife and I went to UK and I worked for an aerospace company in Lancashire for a year.

Then in July 2006 I rejoined Boeing as a contractor in Everett working as a liaison engineer….back to my roots.

 I was sent to Taipei in October and have been there since then working on the 747 large cargo freighter. I've been back home a few times and now am back in Taipei until July.

Ed Ragany is also working for Boeing….he's in China.

 It's been a lot of fun and Boeing pick up the tab for everything. I even get a Mercedes limo to and from work every day!!

Take care,

    John Beattie - Liaison Engineering, Boeing Large Cargo Freighter

 

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Our next reunion is set for June 2, 2007. This will be our third get together, with each one bigger than the last. 

Toward the end of days at Boeing, Jim Roberts from Local 673 came up with a brilliant idea. He suggested that keeping in touch would be made a little easier if there was a regular gathering that everyone would know about. Rather than setting up a formal reunion where halls, hotels or restaurants have to be booked, we should keep it simple.

So here it is: Just come if you want to. If you miss one go to the next one. We plan to do this for a while so you will always know that; the first Saturday in June and December, you’ll have an opportunity to renew acquaintances. Everyone is invited. Union, salaried, management, spouses, family members even bring a friend. Spread the word to everyone you have contact with.

As usual it will be at the Pearson Pub of the Econolodge Inn. Some of you may know this location better as the upstairs bar at the Avion Motor Hotel or the Celebrity Inn. It is on Airport Road, approx three kms south of the old plant.

Saturday June 2nd from 1:00pm - 6:00pm. No need to confirm your attendance, just show up if you want to.

What you should do for sure though is spread the word to as many people as you can.

I hope to see you in June
 

Dan McNeil - CAWLOCAL1967@rogers.com l'll be there
 

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Hi Malcolm. Ned Taylor here. Hope all is well with you and family. Its been a long time since I retired. Been over 5 yrs now time sure flies.

 I have a business in woodworking now and love my work, making upper Canadian and Quaker style furniture. Please get back to me and bring me up to date on what you have been up to.

 Take care. Ned Taylor

 

Hi Ned, You didn't put your email address. Let me know Malcolm

 

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I worked at MDCAN from September 1985 until 1992 and came back again in 1996 until 2001. 

I gained many friendships from my time at MDCAN, friends who remain with me still and other's who have passed and are missed.

My Father, Oscildo Sousa, retired from MDCAN with 25 years under his belt.  On his behalf, thank you for wonderful times and great friendships.

I too thank you for years of fun times, steadfast friendships, a solid work ethic and experience in the Aerospace field which I still work in today. 

I was so happy to receive the link to this site today and have forwarded it onto friends that worked at MDCAN.  Thank you for creating this site.

Love,

Paula Sousa (  Paula.Sousa@mdcan.com )

 

"a solid work ethic" who can argue with that

 

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Toronto's long history of aerospace achievement

BY MIKE LOMBARDI AND LARRY MERRITT

 

 The Boeing plant on the outskirts of Toronto boasts a long and rich history. That history includes several name changes that reflect previous owners and involvement in some of the most important—and some of the most unusual—aerospace programs of the last 65 years.

The National Steel Car Corporation of Malton, Ontario, built the plant in 1938. When Great Britain needed an aircraft factory out of reach of German air attack during World War II, the plant was declared a Crown Corporation and renamed "Victory Aircraft." During the war, its employees turned out 430 Lancaster bombers and more than 3,000 Anson utility aircraft for the Royal Air Force.

In late 1945, A.V. Roe of Canada Ltd. acquired the facility from the British government.

In 1949 the plant produced the first commercial jet transport to fly in North America—the Avro XC-102 Jetliner. Although the plane had a successful flight-test program, pressure to increase production of military aircraft during the Korean War forced the commercial jetliner off the production line.

The plant quickly moved into high gear to build the Avro CF-100 Canuck. A twin-engine all-weather interceptor, the CF-100 made its first flight in 1950 and entered service with the Royal Canadian Air Force in 1952. Over eight years, the plant produced 692 Canucks in five major versions.

As CF-100 production declined, A.V. Roe's plant designed and built two prototypes of one of the most unusual experimental aircraft ever to fly: the VZ-9AV Avrocar. This flying-saucer-shaped vehicle promised a major breakthrough in vertical takeoff and landing technology. But after two years of tests, the Avrocar proved they could hover only two feet (61 centimetres) off the ground and move forward and backward at 35 mph (56 kilometres per hour). Because they were aerodynamically unstable, the program was cancelled in 1961.

Between the Canuck and the Avrocar, the plant embarked on an ambitious project and the development of one of the most technologically advanced aircraft of its time.

After failing to find a suitable fighter in the United States or Europe capable of defending Canada's vast airspace, the Royal Canadian Air Force in 1953 awarded Avro's Toronto plant the contract to develop the airframe and engines for the CF-105 Arrow.

A twin-engine, long-range, all-weather, supersonic interceptor, the Arrow featured a large delta-shaped wing. It flew with a crew of two and could carry eight Hughes Aircraft Falcon infrared-guided or four radar-guided Sparrow air-to-air missiles in its huge internal weapons bay.

After four years of development, the Arrow made its first flight in 1958. The plane placed the plant at the forefront of supersonic flight technology and became a source of Canadian national pride. Chief design engineer Doug Moore was responsible for the structural design of the forward fuselage of the Arrow. "The Arrow was very sophisticated for its time," recalled Moore, now retired. "We were doing things with that plane aerodynamically that hadn't been done before."

Financial and military realities, however, soon began working against the plane.

As modern military aircraft became more technologically advanced, and thus more expensive, they needed to be capable of carrying out multiple missions to justify costs.

Unfortunately, the Arrow was designed and built for one mission: to intercept Soviet bombers. As the Arrow's development costs rose, Canadian military planners decided the Soviet bomber threat could be more economically countered by surface-to-air missiles, such as Boeing's Bomarc, and by less expensive multi-mission aircraft that were initially passed over in favor of the Arrow, including the McDonnell F-101B Voodoo.

In 1959, after only one year of flight tests and production, the Arrow program was canceled. Five aircraft had been completed and had flown 66 flights; more than a dozen were on the production line. All the Arrows were scrapped. Only a single forward fuselage section and one main landing gear remain; they're on display at the National Aviation Museum in Ottawa.

Ironically, the decline of the Arrow proved a boon for aerospace companies south of the Canadian border. Many of the company's talented engineers accepted jobs with Boeing, North American Aviation, Hughes and McDonnell. More than 30 joined NASA and played key roles on the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space programs.

The opportunity to manufacture aircraft components for Douglas Aircraft brought new life to the plant in 1963. DeHavilland Aircraft of Canada, the fourth owner of the facility, entered into a joint venture with Douglas to manufacture wings and tail assemblies for the DC-9 jetliner. Douglas Aircraft of Canada was formed in 1965, and in 1968 the company purchased DeHavilland's buildings and surrounding property.

The plant was modernized extensively and enlarged in 1970 to accommodate wing assembly for the DC-10. The expansion made the Toronto plant the largest aerospace manufacturing facility in Canada at that time.

In 1981 the plant became known as McDonnell Douglas Canada (MDCAN) and expanded its production to include KC-10 and MD-11 wings, MD-80 wings, empennage and cabin floors, and F/A-18 side panels and pylons.

During this time, MDCAN was at the forefront of change as it developed several continuous improvement process programs. One program decentralized the fabrication shop, dividing it into product groups composed of self-managed employees who were individually responsible for performing most of their tasks. Other programs involved the formation of strategic business units and a "just-in-time" inventory system. Many of these innovations later served as models for similar programs at other McDonnell Douglas locations.

The plant became Boeing Toronto Ltd. in 1997, after the merger of McDonnell Douglas and Boeing. As Boeing Toronto, it was the sole provider of 717 wings. The facility also fabricated parts for the Delta rocket, the C-17 airlifter and 737 jetliners.

Now, the plant's 42-year history with heritage Boeing companies is ending. The plant will cease operations as a Boeing facility following shipment of the last 717 wing.

"The accomplishments of the people here have had a significant impact on the world we live in today," said Stephen J. Fisher, president of Boeing Toronto. "From wartime production, to the pioneering development of supersonic flight and the building of wings and assemblies for one of the most successful commercial jet families, the people at this facility faced immense challenges and opportunities. A lot of people can be very proud of the job they have done here."

Stolen from the Boeing website